“The ‘we’ only includes those who were fully enfranchised for American history.
“Indigenous people, people of color, slavery – that’s a divided quality. No this isn’t unprecedented.
“There’s viciousness and brutality in American history. It’s a through line.
“And then I still say yes, we are in a new time. It is a new moment. I would love to say historians have wisdom to offer beyond holy crap.”